Diagnosis, Wenckebach Squared?

aka ECG Exigency 018.2

Thanks to all who contributed to solving the puzzle of Diagnosis, Wenckebach? in ECG Exigency 018.1Let’s recap:

The following tracing can be found in our ECG library, allegedly as an example of Wenckebach AV block. However, as one of our readers, Jan Štros has pointed out, there is something not entirely right about this ECG tracing…Can you spot the ‘deliberate’ mistake?

Wenckebach AV block with Wenckebach SA block

Here is my impression of the ECG (by no means the “correct” answers) is as follows…

Q1. What features of Wenckebach AV block are present on this ECG?

Q2. What features of Wenckebach are notably ABSENT?

Q3. What possible explanations could exist to explain this tracing?

Final Interpretation

Cardiovascular curveball 700

CLINICAL CASES

ECG Exigency

Emergency Physician in Prehospital and Retrieval Medicine in Sydney, Australia. He has a passion for ECG interpretation and medical education | ECG Library |

4 Comments

  1. I do have another ECG with the same finding, and I do agree with you for the diagnosis of Wenckebach AV block with Wenckebach SA block

  2. It is simultaneous SA Mobitz I and AV Mobitz I. The conduction ratio of the SA/atrium interface is less than the conduction ratio of the AV node. So, when the the SA node reaches the end of its episode, it blocks and the entire pathway from SA node to the last ventricular myocyte has time to repolarize and then start over again. The AV Mobitz I never gets the opportunity to reveal its actual conduction ratio.

  3. The P-P interval remains unchanged meaning the SA impulse is not progressively stalled. Constant P-P interval so would this rather be a Wenkebach AV block with Second Degree SA Mobitz II instead?

    • If this SA second degree type 2, the P wave will has an exact multiple of the preceding P-P interval

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